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Kyle Samani on Building Forward Industries: $1.65B Raise, Solana DeFi Integration, and the Future of Internet Capital Markets

Kyle Samani on Building Forward Industries: $1.65B Raise, Solana DeFi Integration, and the Future of Internet Capital Markets

Kyle Samani and Jason Yanowitz on the Empire Podcast discussing Forward Industries' Solana treasury vision

Ever wondered what happens when crypto heavyweights like Multicoin Capital's Kyle Samani team up with trading giants Jump Trading and Galaxy Digital to supercharge Solana's ecosystem? In the latest episode of the Empire Podcast, Samani spills the beans on Forward Industries' blockbuster $1.65 billion raise—the largest Solana-focused treasury play to date. If you're knee-deep in blockchain, DeFi, or even the wild world of Solana meme tokens, this chat is a must-listen. It's not just about stacking SOL; it's about rewriting how we think about digital asset treasuries (DATs) and bridging TradFi with on-chain magic.

Samani kicks things off by painting the big picture: Forward Industries isn't your run-of-the-mill DAT. Sure, it's holding a massive SOL treasury, but the real game-changer is running core operations—like payroll and vendor payments—natively on-chain. Imagine tokenizing equity for seamless governance votes or fundraising without the legacy headaches of DTCC or transfer agents. "We're going to be the guinea pig," Samani says, nodding to SEC Chair Gary Gensler's vision of bringing U.S. securities markets on-chain. It's bold, it's experimental, and it's exactly what Solana needs to prove blockchain can handle real-world business at scale.

The raise itself? A whirlwind two-week sprint that pulled in a mix of crypto natives (think Paradigm, a16z crypto) and TradFi powerhouses like Graticule. Samani dropped $25 million personally, with Multicoin chipping in another $100 million-plus. What sealed the deal for partners like Jump Trading and Galaxy Digital? Shared conviction in Solana's edge over Bitcoin DATs. While BTC holders chase perpetual preferreds with no organic yield, SOL's native staking (around 8-9%) plus DeFi spreads (borrowing USD at 4-5% from banks, lending on-chain for 12-20%) creates real cash flow. "Solana DATs fund their own coupons," Samani explains— a yield machine that Bitcoin just can't match.

Diving deeper into DeFi integration, Forward isn't sitting on idle assets. Plans include arbitraging credit rates (TradFi loans funneled into Solana pools for spreads) and striking exclusive deals with protocols like Drift or Kamino for better liquidity and yields. Scale matters here: With billions in AUM, Forward can negotiate token airdrops or staking perks that boost SOL per share for holders. And M&A? Samani sees a bloodbath ahead—20+ DATs won't survive, but consolidators like Forward will scoop up underperformers at discounts, especially cross-chain (bye-bye, low-liquidity Avalanche plays).

Of course, no Solana talk is complete without ETFs. Samani's bullish: Spot SOL ETFs (potentially launching by year-end) will democratize access, letting normies buy via Robinhood or Coinbase without touching wallets. For Forward, it's a tailwind—more demand for corporate wrappers alongside pure spot exposure. But the real fireworks? Stablecoins as crypto's "iPhone moment." With the GENIUS Act on the horizon, Samani predicts iOS and Android will bake in native stablecoin wallets by 2026-27. Overnight, 7 billion phones get dollar access, exploding adoption. "That's the single largest capital shift in history," he says.

Wrapping up, Samani's thesis on internet capital markets is pure fire: A global, 24/7, permissionless system where prediction markets embed in WSJ articles, sports bets pop up mid-broadcast, and AI chatbots handle equity trades in group chats. Forget siloed apps—crypto's APIs make finance programmable, finally unshackling software from legacy rails.

For Solana degens and meme token hunters, this episode underscores why the chain's ecosystem is primed for explosive growth. Forward's moves could juice liquidity for everything from blue-chips to viral memes. Catch the full vid on YouTube, or stream on Spotify or Apple Podcasts. Timestamps make it easy to jump to your faves—like the Hyperliquid USDH drama at 41:40.

What do you think—will Forward's DAT playbook spark the next Solana meme supercycle? Drop your takes in the comments.

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